Continuing the plan of the Furtive Pygmy and led by Darkstalker Kaathe, members of the Darkwraith covenant aim to be the new Dark Lord, to herald the Age of Dark.". About Community. This is one of those posts that I will be referencing when asked "what's the story of Dark souls? Someone who wont be easily defeated, so an Age of Fire couldnt happen again. It is from this Light Soul that we have all the modern forms of soul-power, all significant, transferable condensations of this incredible energy, and the root energy used in all magic-proper afterwards. This is in reference to how his Lord Soul is said to have been used in large part in "offering to death." This is represented by their shard of the First Flame burning out, and disappearing from the universe. Gwen created the Seal of Fire to seal away humanity because he's a selfish jerk, and the Age of Fire keeps this alive. The Everlasting Dragons, whether before or after the First Flame came into existence I cannot say, have within them a kind of light. As far as I am aware, the nature of his treachery is not elaborated upon. His realm lies near the bottom of the world, among other things due to its age. As such he was a part of blood-life's earliest civilization, a being that watched over burial rites and customs. The blood lifeforms could perish normally. The seal of fire causes a distinct problem. In the End of Fire ending, we see what is apparently the begining of an age of dark, and the screen literally fades into total blackness, and I do believe that this isn't merely a transition screen, as the Fire Keeper says "Ashen One, hearest thou my voice still? Were the hollows from that first cutscene literally just mindlessly wandering in the dark until the fire appeared, and then 3 seemingly random ones got the Lord Souls? and it can technically be everlasting unless a new age of fire begins. I believe that it innately does not possess the properties that we have come to regard "soul" in Dark Souls though, namely that it can be transferred, broken down, fuse/build up, or used for a variety of purposes by means of its consumption or transposition by the sophisticated means later used by the gods. Full of gray crags, archtrees, and Everlasting Dragons. Instead, the Flame rekindles itself by burning the part of Gwyn's soul analagous to the white tinge of humanity, this leaves him in a state that looks similar to an undead hollow. Lets call these pieces the Light Soul and the Dark Soul. I am decently inclined to believe they have ancient origins from their growth throughout, and towards the bottom, of the great hollow. Dark Souls 3 mentions a white flame existing in the Sage Coal, the Sages being clear students of Seaths crystal magic. card. >inbefore duh it's dark hurr hurr So far all Dark Souls games have taken place on the edge of transition to the age of fire to the age of dark. Dark Souls Remastered includes the main game plus the Artorias of the Abyss DLC. He may or may not be called "First of the Dead" because his base skeleton was the first lifeform to die. I think one of the greatest things about dark souls is the lack of explanation. Hello, thank you for reading. He arranges with the Way of the White and the gods to create some bells and the Lordvessel, and slumbers in awaiting a "Chosen undead" whose strength is tested in ringing the bells, which wakes up Frampt. I have yet to play DS1 (I have spent countless hours with DS2 and DS3), but I enjoy anything regarding any DS lore/theories. Just as the first cutscene describes, the First Flame generates all conceptual elements of the universe that have a compliment: Life/Death, Heat/Cold, Light/Dark etc. I find it thematically pleasing to assume nothing even moved. Seath, in harnessing this, allowed his body's soul power to slowly become crystal, which is the clear difference in appearance noted between his intro and game appearances. The difficulty level is turned all the way up to 11 in this game, and will probably be remembered as the hardest game this year. But then there was fire, and with fire came disparity. Frampt then, with less than stellar honesty, attempts to guide the undead to regain the Lord Souls and Lord Soul shards, which they must first do by gaining the Lord Vessel in Anor Londo, and then killing god-like entities that possess them. Hot. As such, Gwyn and/or his people (which included his knights), looked down upon them. This "greedy" action does not work out as planned, Gwyn's soul power is mostly unused by the kindling, hence the remain of a phantasm of his skill and power as Gwyn, Lord of Cinder. In writing this post, it came down even to exact phrasing to form an interpretation, such was the density of the opening passage. I may adapt or refine it come the right time. The dark is ultimately staved off by primordial fire, which is the nature of the seal. Initially, they are one, which I claim to be an ordinary Lord Soul, perhaps the only one left. The Witch became Lord, and she and her daughters became the first humanoid magic-users, known ad hoc as flame sorcery since it manipulated or generated the primeval, I suspect largely by using the power of the Lord Soul. During the war, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight used his powerful bolts, peeling their stone scales; the Witch of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos wove great firestorms; Nito, the First of the Dead unlea… One important thing that has always been there but which has been spelled out by the Repair sorcery in DS3 is that Light is Time. Before the first flame, how were things? I live to read these kinds of things about videogames, but the Dark Souls series specifically. Dark Souls doesn't have a bad character creator, but just looking at a Reddit thread of Code Vein creations shows how dynamic it is. I would like to emphasize that now, we have these concepts, and particular for the "positive" part of them we have a kind of quantification of intensity. The art in crafting a unified theory and explanation of the unknown is in how encompassing, detailed, and pleasing it feels to the lost loreseeker. Okay, so, one of the main aspects of the lore surrounding the Dark Souls universe is that its very "theatrical", in the sense that many important aspects about the story are described in a very eloquent and poethical way, and usually don't go into factual details about some events. When they die, they die. The game feels very responsive, and renovates (from DeS) or otherwise innovates alot of the core mechanics that make the sequels great games. Lifeforms of flesh and blood are born in the darkness, animated and given life by the First Flame. Unfortunately I have flavor texts that support the sun as being that which results from the flames of lords (chaos flame vestiges/forbidden sun) but they are not Dark Souls texts. It grows in power with time, in search of what it has lost. Really neat fan theory! Things always come full circle here. But I believe that the twinkling energy ultimately gave the everlasting dragons their undying nature, and Seath found this Primordial Crystal thing, which had the ability to crystallize soul-energy or perhaps that crystals are indeed simplistic solidified souls and that the Primordial Crystal allowed some form of them to be indestructable, like an auxilliary energy source to "power" durability. Crafting this theory was like making a macaroni-art plate, my mom is really proud and technically its art, but its as valuable only in so much as you the reader enjoys it. Its a value I find hard to quantify, but something I found satiated in strong regards when making this theory. It would take away from posts, communities and discussions like I've seen here. But Lord Gwyn trembled at the Dark. There is so much out there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Time flows as a consequence of light, as a consequence of the First Flame. I do believe that he was the first skeleton reanimated by soul-power. I am a fan of all three games, and I very much enjoyed coming back to Dark Souls with the remaster. I believe that, fitting with the idea that the Lord Souls were originally pseudo-eternal sparks that provided a strong but humble warmth to nurture civilization, that above the outer crust of the world there existed the Moon, after the first flame that is. I am not aware of there being a source for Lightning being a secret weakness of the Everlasting dragons given by Seath as part of his treachery. It's actually in the past of our Firelink Shrine. Dark souls 3 - yes, it's difficult, yes, it's worth it. I claim this to be the same "Twinkle" erupting from the Twinkling Dragon Stones of Dark Souls 3, though I will be de-emphasizing references to Dks 3 in this post. One question I have though is how do you fit Seath into the whole Dragons being mineral lifeform thing. They are what become known as undead. Ingward notes the existence of at least one undead gaining the Lordvessel before, and odds are they eventually met their demise due to not being strong enough. They are possibly in some way eternal, remnants of the first flame that dwindle in a timeline akin to entropic death of the universe. Now, this doesn't mean the Age of Dark would be "frozen", but rather that it'd be "still" in a more philosophical sense: without time flowing, things wouldn't really change. Darkness, which otherwise would just be the lack of flame and soul-power, can now expand and consume. Fantastic job! It was a great read. The reproduction in particular is certain, for the Witch of Izalith had daughters. The Gods influence dwindles. The dark within humanity can now fester, still and stagnant, leaking analogies of pus, rot, and corruption. Age of Fire is better than age of Dark Lore Hi all, recently made a post on the DS1 Reddit board, however it is equally relevant for DS3 and discusses why the Age of Fire may well be the better option to the Age of Dark. "In the Age of Ancients, the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. It seeks to regain its "power", but more accurately described is that it wishes to make itself whole, in a way you might imagine positive and negative particulates want to rejoin. And you can rule it. I do not regard this "blood-fire" as being a form of soul power, although one can claim that it is and is related to one's true essence, and perhaps that is what is drawn from in the pyromancy the Power Within. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. It is simply but powerfully narrated in dialogue, each word having great meaning. Its disunion from its compliment, the Dark Soul, essentially allowed the long-lasting potential of the its proper form to be circumvented and "burnt-up" in some capacity. Short version, lazy presentation: Seath is a mutant of the Everlasting Dragons made of flesh. The breakthroughs in development correspond with realization of a Lord Soul. Dark souls is an incredible, fun, deep, rewarding game if you are the right person. It was when all Lords enflamed their Lord Souls did they gain the strength to challenge the ancient winged deities. Would there be any sunlight? This lead him to discover another nature of the Dark, wherein the dregs of it will sink to the lowest depth possible, and form the core components of the world23. The lore of Dark Souls is infamously vague. Gwyn leads the gods and men up an archtree to the outer crust of the world. Known only as the Ashen One, this hero's objective and duty is to see to the destruction of the imposing Lords of Cinder to prevent Armageddon. Among the remaining humanoid blood-life not under the umbrella tribes associated with the Witch or Gwyn, identified by how they did not share in the prosperity of civilization and strength of a Lord Soul, were these guys called Pygmies. And does Dark Souls … The humanity sprite within each of the first men is alive, in the same description I have used for the Dark Soul. For other uses, see Ending (disambiguation). With time flowing, concepts like Life and Death gained meaning, and so did Light and Dark. The Age of Ancients: The First Flame's birth, Bloodlife, and things before the war on the dragons. Humans are Hollows. Nito was an amalgamation of skeletons, with root skeleton being giant, reanimated by one Lord Soul, which he claimed and became a Lord. From this, we have disparity, change, and time, among various other metaphysical concepts. I'd like to hear your interpretations (and facts if there's something I'm missing here), but to me personally, I always felt like the age of dark meant an age without lords, without the magic that stems from the First Flame. This is the water found in Ash Lake, and it is from this water, which we do not claim has a bottom necessarily, that the Archtrees rise up from. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I claim the most important takeaways from this is blood is the essence of most of what can be considered a lifeform in the Dark Souls universe, and that this is what carries the little piece of the First Flame that animates the lifeform. However, I firmly believe that any theory, if consistent with the data provided by the games, is valid. But by nature of being born of a cursed existence, the dark is metaphysically an Abyss; as much as it consumes and grows, it can never be satiated. Regarding Hollows in the Age of Grey: before the First Flame, they were probably wandering aimlessly and mindlessly, but keep in mind that there probably were years between the retrieval of souls and Gwyn's War on Dragons: Gwyn and the other Lords had to unite and equip an untold number of people before they could wage war, and we don't know how long this war lasted. It was during this time that the Lord Souls were found, near the First Flame. The Age of Ancients: The Dark Soul and the First Men. Seath was said to be "true undead" in his final state, although I believe he was going to eventually become immovable crystal in a dark parody of the pseudo-mineral nature of his brethern, them being made out of another kind of elemental, earth like material, possibly related to other upgrade materials. However, it can do these things to an extent, as this life can reproduce and consume each other. Email. But I do not believe this revelation necessarily spawned Gwyn's tribe usage of lightning magic, or that they had lightning magic before they are told such a thing. In a sense, this has proliferated its continuing appeal and analysis. The Witches and Nito do what you see in the cutscene, powered by their Lord Souls. This has the effect of them losing their "humanity", over multiple reanimations they will lose their sanity and memory. It may just be a loose title. I think they were literally pygmies, in that they were smaller in stature to Gwyn's tribe, although perhaps not the Witch's, but in particular they were ultimately kin to their fellow humanoid blood-life. The Dark Soul. I love this series particularly because of the lore. Any life at all? The dragons are animated by their incredible internal "twinkling" light, they are "killed" in the same way you kill a statue by breaking it. In this era, the world was ruled by the Everlasting Dragons. The Dark Soul is what turns the dark into the Dark. It is a force that can be harnessed, but while initially weak, is unique in that it can expand. Another is an obsession to seemingly imitate moonlight. Ahh. But to go along with what I have already written, I have two flavors of how to explain some things about Seath. Cheers mate, I saved this for next time I have time to read a book. If you don't talk to the Shrine Handmaid in Firelink until after you've talked to her in Untended Graves, she seems to recognize you, but catch herself. I like to believe that by being blood, these beings carried within themselves some of this serene, peaceful water of Ash Lake, having it as their birthplace in the very beginning. Again this is not very ironed out... Just wanted to say, I thoroughly enjoyed this theory. Very interesting read! At least one oddball possesses an agenda to prevent the natural march of time and restore and maintain the Age of Fire as long as possible. Also, the dead Fire Keeper you loot the Eyes off of, if you talk to Ludleth before you give them to her he talks about the dead one in a personal tone. " The world is also as not directly stated. We should have a dark souls lore sub. The Primordial Serpents, whose role certainly had some play before all this, start to have some clear agenda. I reference this to be the "Twinkle" referenced in Twinkling Titanite to be strange and of unknown origins. Furthermore, the nature of crystals here would suggest the nature of him birthing modern sorcery as soul-power made "solid", the crystal apex of the soul spells being particularly piercing and tangible. I think they are just shattered, their pieces no more alive or dead then they are combined. For example, we now have an existence things that can have a lack of Light, or once have light but now no longer do. Also, I believe the smaller ones breed faster and die faster. I do not find a good way to say he isn't flesh, after all he clearly looks fleshy. Clinging to his Age of Fire, and in dire fear of humans, and the Dark Lord who would one day be born amongst them. Dark Souls: Age of Fire #3 art by Anton Kokarev. Sounds like the Age of Fire, just with no sun. I know people say that Untended Graves is how an age of dark would look like, but I'm not convinced. It was essentially condensed energy units that could be manipulated, but I claim that they were initially much weaker than what is seen in the feats of the great war (they were just the little flames seen in Nito and the Witch's grasp) They were also uniquely eternal and had the potential to grow great in circumstances I will elaborate upon shortly. But the Age of Dark, proceeding from the Age of Flame, has thus Disparity baked into it. Each of the pygmies gains some amount of humanity, perhaps more going to those that would become known as pygmy lords in the Ringed City, and thus we have Men. Despite the Age of Dark being a ubiquitous concept throughout the Dark Souls series, it is never the "current" state of the world in any of the existing games. Dark Souls Age of Fire Mod Official Reddit r/DarkSoulsAgeofFireMod. Dark Souls 3. DARK SOULS III sees a lone adventurer wandering through a fallen and deserted kingdom now populated only by a variety of evils, including shambling undead, dark knights, and massive beasts. Thus began the age of men, the Age of Dark. Nito quite literally artificially creates death for these beings. However in Dark Souls 3, it is clearly alluded that golden pine resin may be "fungal" in nature. They are mostly embellishing and reinforcing data that I may collect in another post and link to stay true to subreddit topic. I find that it helps iron out some of the supposed inconsistencies and head-scratchers of the game, like how the First of the Dead can move, what dead even means in a world filled with undead, how darkness can be representative of life etc. The Light Soul was the unbridled soul power of the Lord Soul now uncontained. I am very strongly inclined to believe lightning is naturally a part of mushrooms from dark souls 3 flavor text, and generally how gold pine resin is only dropping from mushroom people. The Age of Ancients is an era in the lore of Dark Souls. I point to how the English mistranslation of finding the Lord Souls IN the first flame, when it was intended to be "near" or otherwise not indicative of location in the original Japanese. The action is analagous to spiritual cannabalism, but allows men to gain incredible power from each other. In this Age, I believe that since he was the only being considered "Undying", he essentially became a primeval deity that created tombs. ", which could mean that they are indeed in total darkness, to the point of the Ashen One not being able to see her. As far as I know, its all theories, and it could also be the representation of a prophecy, something from the past (which is what I believe), or whatever. I believe that the moon as a celestial body is actually a predescessor to the sun as seen in dark souls. If you like, check out my lore post on the Primordial Serpents and DLC ending as interpreted from Dark Souls 3 on the Dks3 subreddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. A great clan of knights led by a certain Gwyn (blood-life having continued to develop, now possessing weapon making and culture resembling medieval period) happened upon a Lord Soul, claimed it and became lord. In a way, I have just now shot myself in the foot before I have even begun, by discrediting the possibility of my theory being a "true answer.". 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