Some liberal arts colleges actually have pretty darn strong science programs (not sure about Middlebury's). The curve for biology/physics/biochem (if you take biochem) is more lenient. (DISCLAIMER: People (including some that I know) do get into med school with a C or even two if the rest of their record and MCAT are good.) That means I can easily volunteer and shadow there (just a short walk from my dorm). If you're good at memorization, biochem is no problem. Duke Human Resources 705 Broad St. Students get plugged into the pre-med advising program as soon as they walk on campus, and they also have incredible opportunities including health-centered study abroad programs and hands-on research experiences.. We also provide individualized guidance, interview preparation, professional editing, and career advising for premed students and applicants to medical school, residency, fellowship and post graduate programs. There isn't actually a major called "pre-med;" pre-med is just a term to let people know you have plans to be a doctor. MedEdits Medical Admissions is a resource for the latest news, commentary and discussion on topics related to medical education. The classes are hard for all majors. It feels like Duke is constantly trying hard to provide a unique set of experiences and opportunities for students. I just couldn't force myself to care enough for a negligible chance of admission that I'd have to pay for. I have had good success in the medical school application process (multiple acceptances so far). I see many of your trollish posts littered through the forum bashing Duke. Two hundred and fifty applicants were interviewed. A. If you go to an easier college for the sole purpose of "I'm just here to get a good GPA for med school," you are putting all of your eggs into the pre-med basket (the very same basket that 6 out of 7 students drop out of). Applying to Duke University - School of Medicine? Ironically, a lot of students who get weeded out at Duke in premed would have become doctors if they just went to less prestigious schools and gotten better grades due to weaker competition.

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This makes me laugh. No offense to those other kids, but we're not just studying for an accounting test, or writing a paper for our journalism class-- we're learning stuff that we're not only going to have to know for the rest of our careers, but we are going to be constantly tested and pushed to our limits within the next years of undergrad and medical school. If you need assistance with completing the online application, please contact the Duke Human Resource Information Center at 919-684-5600. Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) If medicine is a career that you would like to pursue, the Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) is a good springboard to gain insights into the profession. Guidelines for the Premedical or Predental Designation On the right there are links regarding course requirements, sample schedules, etc. However, you have to realize the people your competing against are just as smart if not smarter than you. It's all a great combination that medical school admissions officers like to see.

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I big reason I chose Duke over UCB/UCLA was for better medical school advising and preparation. I was way more stressed in undergrad than I've been all year.

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I got a few questions and wondered if anyone could help with the answers. If the courses are all easy, then the science program would be hardpressed to produce high quality graduates.

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yeah, I think I could get into Cornell, Hopkins, ND, or Duke, (definitely not all), but I should probably go to Hamilton, Colgate, or something like that to be safe.

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lol speaking for one of the 6/7 getting weeded out of the pre-med major, I can tell you from first hand...you definitely need to be passionate for it.

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^yeah, pre-law wouldn't work for me. [quote] Personally, I can't stand it when people have already decided they're going to become doctors before they've even taken their first college class because the vast majority of them will end up doing something else. pre-med is hard! But medical schools know this and realize that because of this, a Duke student's GPA may be artificially low. thanks!

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Question directed at Bluedevilmike heh heh.

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I was also premed at Duke. ...To me, that's an incredible advantage. Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha.

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20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. Under DACO, you will be paired with a practicing doctor, who is a Duke-NUS alumnus, for a two-day taster of what their work entails. Which brings me to my next point:

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85-90% of students who apply to medical school from Duke are admitted. Does it include the scores from students who did not submit the application? 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu

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Just remember, Duke's average MCAT is a 34. This is the amount a patient who is uninsured will pay for the COVID-19 test only. Basically, I want to know: I participated in a number of 'Signature Duke' programs like the FOCUS program for first-years, Duke Engage (a funded internship somewhere around the world), and more - and these really made the school feel unique. #6: Duke Not only is Duke one of the best universities in the nation, it also offers a robust pre-med program. Medical schools are well aware of the rigor of the top programs. I got all A's and B's with probably <10 hours per week on average. Admission to the Duke PA Program is very competitive. Most of the students who start as pre-med are only pre-med because they don't know what else to do, plus being a doctor sounds pretty cool (harsh, but realistically pretty true). However, you should really enjoy your undergraduate years, so take that into account too when you decide to sign your letter of intent to register.

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It shouldn't be ironic that good science programs don't just hand out good grades left and right. I was wondering if you may know the average # of incoming freshmen aiming for medical schools? Office of Health Professions Advising. You'll work your tail off. The 25th percentile ACT score is … I am wondering why are you lurking in the forum? Grade inflating school like Duke saying this to notable grade deflation school Berkeley? Isn't this similar to high school?

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Wow, I must have an easy schedule then.

. Your non-refundable $100 e-check tuition deposit must be received by Thursday, April 30, 2021 by 11:59 PM, EST. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley.

That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol.

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Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha. Box 90496 Durham, NC 27705 Phone: (919) 684-5600 Have questions? In accordance with the CARES Act, Duke Health has established the standard cash price of $39 for COVID-19 testing. c) your aptitude towards the subject you're studying.

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If you're taking orgo, then yeah, it might be about 10 hours a week. c) Biomedical engineering Office of Health Professions Advising. Ironically, the better/stronger the department, the tougher it is to get good grades. Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152(orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. The majority of students admitted to Duke University got an SAT score between 2040 - 2330, or got accepted with an ACT score in the range of 30 - 34. Someone graduating with a 3.5 from Duke BME program definitely gets a lot more respect than someone who graduated with a 4.0 from a state school with a mediocre program.

, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Sure, you might get into med school, but is that what you really want? 2) One AAMC reports showed that there were 387 applicants from Duke who applied for medical school in 2009. The application fee at Duke University is $95. I don't want to get weeded out...

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That's a very good question. ~47% (the national average) of UCB/UCLA students are admitted to medical school, which should say something.. Become a Duke Pre Med. I think everybody would agree that your childish behavior is far worse.

, Eatsalot:That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol. But if it's another premed class, say biology, then maybe its 5.

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1) Was the average MCAT of 34 from all students who submitted application for medical school? "Pre-med" is the term people use to show that they want to go to med school and are taking the classes they need to get there.

That said, study times vary widely. b) your work ethic If you do know that you want to be a medical doctor while you’re still in high school, you should look for colleges that will prepare you well for the career ahead of you. In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. The module, titled GMS1000: The Duke-NUS Pre-Med Course is taught by Duke-NUS postdoctoral fellows. a) Biology

Having been offered a likely I wanted to know what I am in for. Duke Regional Hospital has 369 inpatient beds and offers a comprehensive range of medical, surgical and diagnostic services, including orthopedics, weight-loss surgery, women's services, and heart and vascular services, and also offers care at the Duke Rehabilitation … The following information describing recent candidates will allow prospective applicants to realistically assess their chances of admission, and to plan accordingly. The Duke-NUS Pre-Medical Module provides a select group of students a unique opportunity to better prepare themselves for entry to graduate medical programmes such as the Doctor of Medicine programme at Duke-NUS. Duke University Hospital, Duke Regional Hospital and WakeMed North are ranked among the best hospitals in the U.S. for starting or expanding your family. Duke is the one secondary I didn't complete. The average science GPA for a premed that is accepted into med school is around a 3.5 which only includes math and science courses, and I think 3.6-7 overall. From this group, a class of 90 will be selected. Get up-to-date MCAT scores, application requirements, and more from The Princeton Review. How hard is it to get into Duke and can I get accepted? The School of Medicine at Duke University has an application deadline of Oct. 15. It really depends on your natural aptitude and the class. lol you must be a southerner

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33hours, you seem to hate Duke.. Its tuition is full-time: $61,170. If students are submitting test scores, students must earn a 24/1180 to be pre-med/pre-dent. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a … The average ACT score at Duke is 34.

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The students at Duke are smart, so you will have to work pretty hard to beat the curves. It really depends on the class. It is comprised of 254 Collegiate Gothic buildings, on over 8,691 acres, which include Duke Forest. The point of a rigorous pre-med program is to test if you really have what it takes and if you really WANT to be a doctor.

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To the OP: yes, it is definitely possible.

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So, you spend a total of 12-16 hours a day studying/doing work?? That means that by being average coming out of Duke, you're at the 91.2–93.6 percentile. Remember, you’re going to Duke for its excellent academics! Most incoming students are premed, but a lot of them don't really know what they're getting into, what it's really like, or if it's even worth it? There are also a ton of research opportunities, especially in the medical … However, the bottom line is to your question is that you are definitely going to have to sacrifice some things ; how much you have to sacrifice depends on where you fall on the grading curve.

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So if I'm a pretty good science student, would I be better off doing pre-med at a highly ranked LAC like Middlebury than at Duke, Cornell, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc.? D:

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I think you generally only have like 2 premed classes in a semester so that would be ~3 hours/day per premed class, so about 6 hours/day total? Thus roughly 6 out of 7 kids get weeded out in the process. In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. It's primarily used by college students. Most pre-med students choose to major in something related to the medical field, such as Biology or Chemistry. If you're good at math, physics is pretty much a breeze. Average ACT: 34. Baylor will be test optional for the 2020-21 admissions cycle. After all, if the pre-med curriculum never challenges you, you won't ever think twice about it. And so on.

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There's a lot more I could say about premed at Duke but I won't go off the deep end here.

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I'm premed here at Duke currently, so I'll answer also.

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I spend about 15-20 hours studying for pre-med classes (e.g., orgo, calc, etc). College is all about time management.

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Having a bad GPA at a really tough program is not necessarily a bad thing. If you want to come to Duke and get into med school afterwards, you MUST truly love what you're doing otherwise you'll be miserable for 4 years studying. If students apply without test scores, they will be individually reviewed for Pre-Med approval based on their high school academic record. The bottom line is, there are lots of people who get into med school from state schools every year. PRE-MEDICAL DESCRIPTION The purpose of pre-medical science course requirements is two-fold: responsibility to contact medical schools for exact course requirements. Learn more about some of the best majors for pre-med students. Approximately 17,000 students are enrolled at Duke University. Duke prepares you VERY well.

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I know this specific question wasn't asked but I thought I'd throw out there that doing premed as a BME at Duke was quite difficult. By Wednesday, June 15, 2021, applicants must "Commit to Enroll" at Duke University School of Medicine and withdraw all other wait list offers from other programs. Could you give me a list or a website of the Pre-Med requirements? I am from California. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. I am not a huge studier. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley. 20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. I'd also be doing pre-dental/pre-optometry/pre-FBI physical sciences division, but those all involve the same classes. I need to go to a school where I can get good science grades.

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Going to an easier school just because you think it'll boost your GPA for med school is pretty detestable in my opinion. Duke University can be found in Durham, NC, a nonprofit private college which focuses on only a select few programs offered. Approximately 250 of the most qualified applicants will be invited for a personal interview conducted at Duke University Medical Center. Why rankings are meaningless, followed by rankings. What’s it like to be pre-med at Vandy?. I am trying to decide between applying early decision to Columbia or Duke. I got 2360 on my SATs and will probably graduate as valedictorian. Is it difficult to achieve a 3.7+ GPA and be able to have a outside life?

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No one will ever say that the Duke Premed courses are easy. It's definitely not easy, especially since most people around you are so ambitious and intelligent. The Duke Office of Health Professions and Advising has such information. I understand that many students may not make their intention known. I am an American Indian if that matters at all.

How difficult is the courseload and material for some current duke pre med students? The school has a 8% acceptance rate ranking it #1 in North Carolina for lowest rate of acceptance.Last year, 3,187 out of 41,947 applicants were admitted making Duke an extremely competitive school to get into with a very low chance of acceptance - even for applicants with the highest scores and grades. How many hours do you put in a week studying? Just like for the SAT, Duke likely doesn't have a hard ACT cutoff, but if you score too low, your application will get tossed in the trash. Not sure how it is at Cornell, but at Duke the hospital/med school is on campus. How many students make it to medical school/what happens if one gets rejected? Up-to-date premed information for Duke University which is ranked as one of the top 75 Premed MD & DO feeder schools for the 2018-2020 application cycles by MedEdits Medical Admissions. This is much, MUCH higher than the national average of ~47%. For the 2020 incoming PA class, 4,092 CASPA applications were received. Eatsalot, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Soooo to try and clarify, a lot of this depends on

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a) your natural intelligence Should I go to Duke or my state school (UCLA/UCB) for the sake of a better GPA? I'm sorry Duke did not offer you enough aid, but that doesn't mean you need to hate Duke. I like sports and want good weather so I am leaning towards Duke. You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a B+." d) Physics

, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. They end up getting weeded out for one or a combination of reasons: they're not smart enough, they don't work hard enough, they lack the passion, or they find passion in something else. b) Chemistry The vast majority of Duke students are intelligent and hardworking enough that they would have gotten into medical school had they attended a school of a lesser caliber. The “preparing” tab deals with what classes you should take and how else your should prepare while an undergraduate at Duke. 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu 3) What are the numbers of students (class 2011 or 2012) from the following departments: Q. sciences. Travel+Leisure Magazine named Duke as one of the most beautiful college campuses in the United States. What is the best school for premed: Cornell, Duke, Northwestern or Dartmouth? Duke is located on a suburban campus in Durham, North Carolina. If you want to really make sure that you can make it to med school, just ultimately go to a school that is at or below your level with an okay science program. That said while it made it harder for me to get into medical school I think it prepared me very well. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. All my classes started to show me the uglier side of medicine that I was sheltered from in those A.P. Roughly 40% of freshmen come in wanting to be pre med, but by the time med school results come in, only about 85-100 people get in to medical school. Well, Duke isn’t easy. Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152 (orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. Duke has good classes, good professors, and smart students. Isn't this similar to high school? You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. Duke Health is committed to providing needed treatment for all patients regardless of ability to pay.

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